x280......Psalm 68:18--the establishing verse for ministry--Does anybody know this?

Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them. (Psalm 68:18)

If we were to ask most ministers--perhaps an evangelist--to prove out the Biblical doctrine of healing--or salvation--they surely could do this.

If one were to teach about healing from the Bible--someone would use the system that the Bible uses to establish New Testament truths. The New Testament utilized quotes from the Old Testament, to establish itself.

When the Holy Spirit was writing the New Testament--through the apostles of the New, obviously these authors had only the old testament to quote from. In the Bible, there is a system of establishing the New Covenant--through the New Testament. These authors used quotes from the Old Testament to establish the most important teachings. And of course to this day, these Bible verse which are found in both the Old and New Testament are among the most convincing and important verses to study and understand. In a sense, God wanted us to study and understand these verses--in a sense He emphasized these things to us--made them firm, by repeating them in both Testaments--in fact, fully explaining their meaning in the New Covenant sense. And teachers of today most often quote from those important verses--at least with regard to most accepted doctrines.

Fro example, if we were to ask a modern evangelist to teach us from the Bible about healing--to explain how the doctrine of healing is established in the Bible, most certainly this person would quote from 1Peter 2:24--

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. (1 Peter 2:24, KJV).

We see that Peter the apostle, in writing these words, to establish the New Testament doctrine of healing, used the words of God spoken through the prophet Isaiah--

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. (Isaiah 53:5)

We see that this important doctrine of the healing power of Jesus, "with his stripes we are healed." is emphasized by this repetition in both the Old and New Testament. The prophecy of Isaiah is explained fully in the New Testament--when we understand the New Testament story of Jesus and His healing power. The way that the Bible does this is by repeating the Old Testament verse in the New. The New covenant doctrine of healing is established by this quote from the Old Covenant.

Certainly our modern-day evangelist would stress this point--would bring it home to us that God firmly establishes healing to us through the blood of Jesus Christ--amen. The way our Bible tells us this is by repeating the Old Testament scripture in the New--to fully explain what was meant in the Old Testament verse, when we fully understand what and whom Jesus was and what He did at the cross with His death and resurrection.

Peter the apostle, in writing his letter, uses this Old Testament verse to establish the New Covenant healing that comes through the blood of Jesus. It was his way, and the way of all the writers of the New Covenant (of course we understand the Bible had One Author--God the Holy Spirit!) to establish the New Covenant doctrines. In a real sense, the writers did not realize that they were writing the New Testament--so in this sense they only had the Old Testament to quote from--this was the only place where they could directly quote the word of God to the people whom they were writing to at that time. So, they used quotes from the Old Testament to establish the most important points and doctrines they were teaching.

Certainly our modern-day evangelist could come up with many many Old Covenant scriptures which establish the New covenant salvation which is to be found in our Lord and Savior Jesus. There were many many verses of the Bible which spoke prophetically of the life and mission of Jesus to bring salvation to the world. The prophecies of His birth, His life, His death and ressurection--were all laid out in Old Testament scriptures--to clearly establish the New Testament doctrine of salvation through faith in the name of Jesus.

For example:

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Psalms 116:13 I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of the LORD.

We as Christians know that "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."---but this is established in the Old Testament verse found in Psalm 116:13 as we see above. Our modern-day evangelist would certainly know and understand this concept--and utilize it to bring people to salvation--to make it clear that the Bible says that any and all can be saved--if they believe by faith--if they "confess with their mouth and believe in their heart" that Jesus is Lord.

But, we would Iike to ask a question of our modern-day evangelist.

What is the Old Testament scripture which establishes New Testament ministry?

After all, our evangelist friend is going from place to place--bringing the Good News of salvation--leading many to God--and he does this under the "title" of an evangelist. With the "authority" of the gift of evangelism.

That's terrific--he probably is doing a great job---but does our evangelist friend know or understand what Old Covenant verse establishes the ministry which he performs?

Probably not.

Like it or not, this is the establishing verse for the "5-fold ministry"--

18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them. (Psalms 68:18, KJV).

Our evangelist friend isn't going to like this verse very much--he probably was never taught this verse in ministry school!

It says somethiing that most "ministers" do not want to hear about ministry---- who has it --and what it is.

This psalm says very clearly that "he who ascended (Jesus) gave these gifts (the gifts of the "5-fold ministry) to "men" (Hebrew: Adam--meaning mankind)---even the rebellious--(educated--trained--professional--"full-time" ministers are definitely not going to want to hear this concept---ministry given to "mankind"--"even the rebellious"---yipes!)

Who wrote this anyway! Who would use this verse in the Old Testament to establish the ministry gifts!--Paul the apostle did (under the guidance of the Holy spirit)

7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: (Ephesians 4:7-12, KJV).

Paul, when he is writing to the church at Ephesus, explaining about the ministry which is to found in the church--in their "body"--uses psalm 68:18 to establish the New Testament gifts of ministry. He uses this verse which says clearly that these "gifts" are given to mankind--including those who are rebellious. Paul is obedient to God, and his calling--the Holy Spirit is trying to tell us that the gifts of ministry are anointings--functions--gifts which we all can operate under--which we all have (now none of us have all the gifts--but all have some)--and which will perform the miraculous---"that the Lord God might dwell among us".--That Gods' presence will come to us--that we all can be our part of Gods' will in the earth--that the world would be saved.

Unfortunately, somewhere along the line--we have forgotten to teach "ministers" the simple establishing verse for the 5-fold ministry. I truly doubt if any of them know or understand this verse.

Which is a sad thing. If we went back 500 years in the church--the leadership did not believe that healing was for today--so people simply did not get healed very often--no one was praying with faith for healing--until people started to read and understand the word of God which establishes New Testament healing through the stripes of Jesus.

The same can be said for salvation--a doctrine which had to be re-established in the organized church at one time (the reformation). I believe that ministry is in the same boat--we need to go back to the Bible and understand what it means and who can serve God.

Like it or not, the Bible establishes ministry gifts with this psalm--

18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them. (Psalms 68:18, KJV).