x181.....US founding Father's--Good Christians

The founding fathers of the the United Sates of America were all a group of very good Christians. They set up our government along the lines of some very powerful Biblical principles.

One of their central themes in setting up government was the concept of "checks and balances" within the government. This idea is in essence representative of the Biblical concept of the body of Christ--a group of people--all of which has a function--

1* ¶ I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2* And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3* For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4* For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5* So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6* Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us......" (Romans 12: 1-6)

These verses in the Bible--along with many others---explain the order in which the church--the body of Christ is meant ot operate and function. One of the central ideas of this is that we are all to take part--we all have a function--but no one part is meant to have greater authority over the other parts.

25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. 26 But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. (Luke 22:25-26, KJV).

The original concept of our statesmen was that of "servants" of the country--not as rulers. Unfortunately, just as Jesus warned His disciples, man has the tendency to corrupt the system of God, and begin to have rulers rather than servants.

But our government, probably more than any other, was based on these concept from the word of God. The 3 branches of government were meant to check one another, so that no one part could rule over the others. The body of Christ--the church--is meant to operate in this way also--no one part ruling--only God ruling---Christ the Head.


It is important to understand why the founding fathers of the US decide to do things this way--rather than initiate a monarchy, as was the system in the "Christians countries" that they had left in Europe.

Those countries had absolute rulers (rulers which claimed to have the God-given, Biblical right to rule with authority over others!) , monarchs who claimed to have God's authority in everything they said and did. A few hundred years earlier, the protestant reformation had rebelled against the Roman church, yet at the same time, the kings of Europe stepped into the same authority position as the pope claimed. Americans were rebelling against a "Christian king".

It is so very important to understand the history of the church! Briefly: the church after the times of the Bible was conquered by the Roman government--which lead later into the Roman catholic papacy--which was in effect the same type of rulership with authority and hierarchy that the Romans had in their emperors--However, after the time of the Reformation, the kings of Europe ruled over the new Christian churches--creating denominations--Christians again ruled by a monarch--a ruler with authority over the church--ignoring the simple Bible statement--

........Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ....(Ephesians 5:23-24)

Understanding where these Christian founding fathers had come from--understanding the years of war that had been caused (Christian nation fighting Christian nation!!) the wars and bloodshed and persecution that had gone on for hundreds of years in Europe over this misconception about God and His authority and rulership!

This is why the founding fathers of the United States made the operation of church and state as a central theme to the US government. They created a government which had a resemblance to the Bible form of government (although our government is imperfect and not operated by God --as the church is meant to be)--and certainly this has been the secret of our success over the governments of Europe. (example; the dictatorships of Europe in the 20th century --Hitler--Mussolini--etc.--these would not have been possible without the establishment of the wrong concept of authority--supposedly in the Bible and operating through the vehicle of the orgainzed church!)

The separation of church and state was the founding fathers reaction to centuries of the abuse of leadership--(which was purported to be Godly and biblical rulership--but which they realized stood against the God-given right to be free). The vehicle of the orgainzed church was a way to control people, and influence them by the rulership of man---not to recognize the rulership of God. The format and function of the Roman church service (yes, the same church sevice which we all still attend, and support to this day!) was simply a demonstration of rulership over people--a place to address and command--not a place of borhterly love and true fellowship on the common level that the Bible describes.

Freedom of religion was the same type of concept which the founding fathers inserted in the government of the US--They did not want the US to become as Europe had been--a battleground of Christians fighting against Christians.

The founding fathers realized that the Bible says that we should not have the rulership of man over the church. This is why they made the idea of separation of church and state--that government and the church are to be separate. They understood the wickedness of the kings of the earth who had used the vehicle of the church and misused the Bible to gain control over people and rule with authority over others--the very thing which God had stood against--amongst His children.